GE DS3800NGMA1B1A

¥999.00

The DS3800NGMA1B1A is a specific revision of General Electric’s Mark V series Fan/Exhaust Control board, part of the Speedtronic™ turbine control system. The suffix “1B1A” indicates Revision B firmware with enhanced 16-bit ADC (improved cold-junction compensation, ±1°C accuracy), standard temperature components (0°C to +60°C), and 3A mechanical relay outputs. This board provides 8 mechanical relay outputs8 thermocouple input channels, and 2 tachometer input channels for fan speed verification.

The DS3800NGMA1B1A is an upgraded version of the base DS3800NGMA, offering improved temperature accuracy (16-bit vs. 12-bit ADC) and Revision B firmware enhancements. It combines the robust isolation and high surge tolerance of mechanical relays with the ability to monitor actual fan rotation. The board relies entirely on the Mark V CPU for control logic, with no onboard setpoint storage.

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Description

Key Technical Parameters

Parameter Specification
Manufacturer General Electric (GE)
Series Mark V (Speedtronic)
Full Model DS3800NGMA1B1A
Power Supply +5V DC @ 3.2A, +15V DC @ 0.5A, -15V DC @ 0.3A (via backplane)
Temperature Inputs 8 differential thermocouple channels (Type J/K/T, 16-bit ADC, ±1°C accuracy)
RTD Inputs None
Fan Outputs 8 mechanical relays, 3A continuous @ 115VAC or 30VDC (surge 5A for 100ms)
Tachometer Inputs 2 high-speed pulse channels (up to 10 kHz) with improved debounce filtering
Communication Mark V proprietary parallel backplane bus
Operating Temperature 0°C to +60°C
Storage Temperature -40°C to +85°C
LED Indicators Power (green), Fan Run (8x amber), Tach Fail (red x2), Over-Temp Alarm (red), Backplane Active (yellow)

Advantages and Distinctive Features

  • Improved Temperature Accuracy (16-bit ADC): The DS3800NGMA1B1A provides ±1°C accuracy—double the precision of the base 12-bit (±2°C) model—enabling better thermal management.

  • Mechanical Relays with Tachometer Feedback: Combines 3A relay outputs with 2 tachometer inputs, allowing the CPU to verify fan operation while benefiting from relay isolation and high surge tolerance.

  • Enhanced Tachometer Debounce Filtering (Revision B): Reduces false speed failure alarms caused by electrical noise or fan vibration.

  • AC/DC Output Capability: Can switch both AC and DC fan loads, providing flexibility for mixed cabinet installations.

  • Complete Galvanic Isolation: Relay outputs provide 2500V isolation between control logic and fan power circuits.

  • Full 8 Thermocouple Inputs: Comprehensive zone-by-zone temperature monitoring.


Typical Application Fields

  • Turbine Cabinets with Mixed AC/DC Fans: Where both AC and DC fans are present and speed monitoring is required.

  • Safety-Critical Cooling Systems: Applications where fan failure must be detected immediately.

  • High-Inrush Fan Applications: Mechanical relays handle startup surges better than solid-state alternatives.

  • Climate-Controlled Indoor Installations: 0°C to +60°C range supports standard power plant environments.

  • Retrofit Upgrades: Replacing base DS3800NGMA boards with the DS3800NGMA1B1A for improved temperature accuracy and tachometer reliability.


Comparison with Related Models

Feature DS3800NGMA1B1A DS3800NGMA (Base) DS3800NFLA1C1C DS3800NFIA1B1B
Output Type Mechanical relay Mechanical relay Mechanical relay Solid-state (DC only)
Output Current 3A 3A 5A 3A
Thermocouple Inputs 8 channels 8 channels 4 channels 8 channels
Tachometer Inputs 2 channels 2 channels 2 channels 2 channels
ADC Resolution 16-bit (±1°C) 12-bit (±2°C) 16-bit (±1°C) 16-bit (±1°C)
Onboard Logic No No No Yes (threshold)
AC Fan Capability Yes Yes Yes No
Operating Temp 0°C to +60°C 0°C to +60°C -20°C to +65°C -20°C to +65°C
Fallback Mode Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%) Autonomous ON/OFF
Cost (Used) Medium Medium Medium-High Medium

Selection Recommendations

  • Choose the DS3800NGMA1B1A if:

    • Your fans require mechanical relay outputs (AC or DC) with 3A continuous rating.

    • You need tachometer feedback to verify fan operation.

    • You want improved temperature accuracy (±1°C) for better thermal management.

    • You have a climate-controlled environment (0°C to +60°C).

    • The Mark V CPU handles all control logic.

    • You are upgrading from a base DS3800NGMA for better performance.

  • Choose the DS3800NFLA1C1C if: You need 5A relays with tachometer feedback and extended temperature range (-20°C to +65°C) but can accept 4 thermocouple inputs.

  • Choose the DS3800NFIA1B1B if: You prefer solid-state DC outputs with tachometer feedback and autonomous fallback logic.

  • Choose the base DS3800NGMA if: You do not require improved temperature accuracy or enhanced tachometer filtering.


Critical Precautions

  • ESD Protection: The DS3800NGMA1B1A contains sensitive ADC components. Always wear a grounded ESD wrist strap.

  • Relay Contact Wear: Mechanical relays are rated for 100,000 operations at 3A. For frequent cycling applications, consider derating or using solid-state alternatives.

  • Inductive Load Derating: The 3A rating applies to resistive loads. For inductive fan motors, derate to 2A or use an external RC snubber across each relay output.

  • Tachometer Wiring: Use shielded twisted-pair cable for tachometer signals. The enhanced debounce filtering on the DS3800NGMA1B1A reduces noise sensitivity, but proper grounding is still essential. Connect the shield to the designated terminal—not at the fan end.

  • No Hot-Swap: Always depower the Mark V rack before inserting or removing the DS3800NGMA1B1A.

  • Slot Assignment: Install in auxiliary I/O slots (typically slots 8–10). Do not install in CPU or analog input slots.

  • CPU Dependency: Since the DS3800NGMA1B1A has no onboard logic, the Mark V CPU must process tachometer feedback and send fan commands. If backplane communication is lost, the board defaults to 100% fan speed—tachometer monitoring will be disabled in fallback mode.

  • Firmware Compatibility: Revision B firmware on the DS3800NGMA1B1A is compatible with Mark V CPU firmware v4.0 and above. For v3.x systems, the enhanced tachometer filtering may be partially disabled. Confirm compatibility before purchasing.

A-B 20-HIM-A3
A-B 1762-OW8
SIEMENS 6ES7 321-1FH00-0AA0

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