GE DS3800NFIA1B1B

¥999.00

The DS3800NFIA1B1B is a specific revision of General Electric’s Mark V series Fan/Exhaust Control board, part of the Speedtronic™ turbine control system. The suffix “1B1B” indicates Revision B firmwareenhanced solid-state output drivers, and extended temperature component selection (-20°C to +65°C). This board provides 8 solid-state DC outputs for fan control, 8 thermocouple input channels, and 2 tachometer input channels for speed feedback.

The DS3800NFIA1B1B is a direct upgrade from the base DS3800NFIA model, offering improved output current capability (now 3A continuous versus 2A), enhanced EMI filtering, and Revision B firmware that includes basic onboard temperature threshold logic—allowing the board to operate fans in a simple ON/OFF mode even if backplane communication is lost for extended periods. This makes the DS3800NFIA1B1B more resilient than its predecessor in the event of partial CPU failure

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Key Technical Parameters

Parameter Specification
Manufacturer General Electric (GE)
Series Mark V (Speedtronic)
Full Model DS3800NFIA1B1B
Power Supply +5V DC @ 3.5A, +15V DC @ 0.6A, -15V DC @ 0.4A (via backplane)
Temperature Inputs 8 differential thermocouple channels (Type J/K/T, 16-bit ADC with improved cold-junction compensation)
Fan Outputs 8 solid-state relays, 3A continuous @ 24–48VDC (surge 5A for 100ms)
Tachometer Inputs 2 high-speed pulse channels (up to 10 kHz) with programmable debounce filtering
Communication Mark V proprietary parallel backplane bus
Operating Temperature -20°C to +65°C (extended range)
Storage Temperature -40°C to +85°C
LED Indicators Power (green), Fan Run (8x green), Tach Fail (red x2), Over-Temp Alarm (red), Fallback Active (yellow)

Advantages and Distinctive Features

  • Enhanced Solid-State Outputs (3A): The DS3800NFIA1B1B provides 3A continuous DC output capability—a 50% improvement over the base DS3800NFIA—allowing it to drive larger 48VDC fans or multiple smaller fans in parallel.

  • Onboard Temperature Threshold Logic: Revision B firmware adds the ability to store high/low temperature setpoints in EEPROM. If backplane communication fails, the DS3800NFIA1B1B can autonomously turn fans ON/OFF based on these thresholds, providing a true failsafe cooling function.

  • Programmable Tachometer Debounce: The two tachometer inputs on the DS3800NFIA1B1B feature user-configurable debounce filtering (via Mark V software), eliminating false speed readings caused by electrical noise or fan vibration.

  • Improved Cold-Junction Compensation: The 16-bit ADC on the DS3800NFIA1B1B includes Revision B’s enhanced compensation algorithm, reducing temperature measurement error from ±2°C to ±1°C compared to the base model.

  • Enhanced EMI Filtering: Additional ferrite beads and common-mode chokes on all I/O lines make the DS3800NFIA1B1B more resistant to electromagnetic interference—critical when installed near VFDs or large contactors.


Typical Application Fields

  • Gas Turbine Control Cabinets: Silent, low-EMI solid-state fan control for DC-powered cooling systems.

  • Combined-Cycle Plants: Where improved 3A output capability supports larger DC fans.

  • Retrofit Upgrades: Replacing older DS3800NFIA boards with the DS3800NFIA1B1B for enhanced failsafe features and higher current rating.

  • High-Cycle Applications: Environments with frequent fan cycling, where solid-state outputs provide unlimited mechanical life.

  • Remote Compressor Stations: The -20°C to +65°C range and autonomous fallback logic make the DS3800NFIA1B1B suitable for unstaffed locations.


Comparison with Related Models

Feature DS3800NFIA1B1B DS3800NFIA (Base) DS3800NFEC1B1B DS3800NFEE1C1B
Output Type Solid-state (DC only) Solid-state (DC only) Solid-state (AC/DC) Mechanical relay (AC/DC)
Output Current 3A continuous 2A continuous 2A continuous 5A continuous
Onboard Temp Logic Yes (threshold-based) No (CPU-dependent) Yes (PID-based) No
Tachometer Inputs 2 channels 2 channels 2 channels None
ADC Resolution 16-bit (±1°C) 16-bit (±2°C) 16-bit (±1°C) 16-bit (±1°C)
AC Fan Capability No No Yes Yes
Operating Temp -20°C to +65°C 0°C to +60°C -20°C to +65°C -20°C to +65°C
Fallback Mode Autonomous ON/OFF Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%)
Cost (Used) Medium Medium-Low High Medium

Selection Recommendations

  • Choose the DS3800NFIA1B1B if:

    • Your fans are DC-powered (24V or 48V) with current draw ≤3A.

    • You need tachometer feedback for speed monitoring.

    • You want enhanced failsafe cooling (autonomous ON/OFF logic) during CPU communication loss.

    • Improved temperature accuracy (±1°C) is beneficial for your application.

    • Your installation is in a moderate environment (-20°C to +65°C).

  • Choose the DS3800NFEC1B1B if: You need AC fan capability, onboard PID control, and advanced fault logging.

  • Choose the DS3800NFEE1C1B if: You need mechanical relays for AC/DC fans up to 5A with no tachometer feedback.

  • Choose the base DS3800NFIA if: Your fan current is ≤2A, you don’t need autonomous temperature logic, and your environment is climate-controlled.


Critical Precautions

  • ESD Protection: The DS3800NFIA1B1B contains sensitive MOSFET and ADC components. Always wear a grounded ESD wrist strap when handling.

  • DC Polarity and Voltage: Solid-state outputs are DC-only and polarity-sensitive. Connect positive to “+” and negative to “-“. Reverse polarity will destroy the output MOSFET. Do not exceed 48VDC—AC voltages will cause immediate catastrophic failure.

  • Current Derating: The 3A rating is for 25°C ambient. At 65°C, derate to 2.2A per output. For multiple channels operating simultaneously, reduce total load by 10% per channel to avoid thermal shutdown.

  • Tachometer Wiring: Use shielded twisted-pair cable. Connect shield to the DS3800NFIA1B1B‘s shield terminal. Incorrect wiring or shared grounding can cause false tach failures.

  • No Hot-Swap: Always depower the Mark V rack before inserting or removing the DS3800NFIA1B1B.

  • Slot Assignment: Install in auxiliary I/O slots (typically slots 8–10). Do not install in CPU or analog input slots.

  • Fallback Threshold Configuration: The autonomous ON/OFF thresholds must be configured via Mark V software before the DS3800NFIA1B1B can operate independently during communication loss. If not configured, the board defaults to 100% fan speed (like the base model).

  • Firmware Compatibility: The Revision B firmware on the DS3800NFIA1B1B is compatible with Mark V CPU firmware v4.0 and above. For v3.x systems, the onboard temperature logic will be disabled—confirm compatibility before purchasing.

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