GE DS3800XTFP

¥999.00

The DS3800XTFP is a specialized multi-function board for the GE Mark IV turbine control system that combines temperature measurement (thermocouple/RTD) with frequency input capabilities. It is designed for applications requiring both precise temperature monitoring and frequency-based speed or flow measurement in a single slot. This board provides multiple thermocouple/RTD input channels along with high-speed counter channels for frequency signals, making it ideal for compact turbine monitoring systems. It works alongside boards such as the DS3800NVIA1G1CDS3800NVIA1G1DDS3800XTBA series, and DS3800XCIA series.

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Description

Key Parameters

Temperature Section:

  • Input Channels: 8 differential thermocouple/RTD inputs

  • Input Types: Thermocouple (J, K, T, E, R, S, B, N), RTD (Pt100, Ni100), millivolt

  • Resolution: 16-bit ADC with ±0.05% accuracy

  • Cold-Junction Compensation: Built-in per channel

  • Diagnostics: Burnout detection, open-circuit detection, over-range/under-range detection

Frequency Section:

  • Input Channels: 2 independent counter/frequency channels

  • Input Types: Magnetic pickup, proximity, TTL (5V), or 24V DC (jumper-selectable)

  • Maximum Input Frequency: 100 kHz

  • Measurement Method: Pulse counting or period-averaging (software-selectable)

  • Accuracy: ±0.01% of reading

Common Section:

  • Isolation: 1500V RMS channel-to-backplane (temperature and frequency sections)

  • Temp Range: –30°C to +70°C

  • Power Supply: +5V, ±15V from VME backplane

  • Physical: 6U VME single-slot board

  • Key Features: Combined temperature and frequency measurement, 16-bit ADC, built-in CJC, burnout detection, 100 kHz counter input


Advantages

  • Multi-function capability – the DS3800XTFP combines temperature and frequency measurement in a single slot, reducing board count and rack space requirements.

  • Built-in cold-junction compensation – on-board CJC for thermocouple inputs eliminates the need for external reference junctions.

  • Burnout detection – automatically detects broken thermocouple wires and flags the channel.

  • Flexible frequency input – supports both pulse counting and period-averaging measurement modes, accommodating speed and flow applications.

  • High accuracy – 16-bit ADC for temperature and ±0.01% for frequency measurement.

  • Diagnostic visibility – per-channel LED status and fault detection simplify troubleshooting.

  • Drop-in compatible – works with all Mark IV backplanes and processor configurations.


Applications

  • Turbine EGT and speed monitoring – measures exhaust gas temperature (EGT) and turbine speed from a single board, ideal for small or modular systems.

  • Temperature plus flow – monitors thermocouple or RTD temperatures while simultaneously reading frequency pulses from flowmeters.

  • Compact turbine control systems – the General Electric DS3800XTFP is suitable for installations with limited rack slots.

  • Bearing temperature and speed monitoring – combines bearing RTD inputs with speed pickup frequency measurements.

  • Retrofits – replaces separate temperature and frequency boards with a single, integrated solution.


vs Competitors & Separate Boards

Feature DS3800XTFP DS3800XTBA (Temp) + DS3800XCIA (Freq) Generic VME Combo Board
Temperature channels 8 16 (XTBA) + 4 (XCIA) 8
Frequency channels 2 0 + 4 2
Board count 1 2 1
CJC Built-in Built-in External
Burnout detection Yes Yes Sometimes
Frequency measurement Pulse count or period-average Pulse count only Varies
Accuracy (freq) ±0.01% <0.01% (XCIA) ±0.05–0.1%
Isolation 1500V 1500V + 1500V 500–1500V
Temp range –30°C to +70°C –30°C to +70°C 0°C to +60°C

Selection Tips

  • Slot-limited installations – choose the DS3800XTFP when you need both temperature and frequency measurement but have limited rack slots.

  • Application matching – ensure that the 8 temperature channels and 2 frequency channels meet your system’s requirements. For larger systems, consider separate boards.

  • Sensor compatibility – verify that your thermocouple/RTD types and frequency sensors (magnetic, proximity, TTL, 24V) are supported by the General Electric DS3800XTFP.

  • Frequency measurement mode – select pulse counting for totalization (flow) or period-averaging for precision speed measurement.

  • Spare strategy – keep one DS3800XTFP per 5–8 installed units, especially in compact systems where it serves multiple critical functions.

  • Calibration – periodically verify temperature accuracy using a precision calibrator and frequency accuracy using a signal generator.


Critical Precautions

  • Thermocouple wiring – use the correct extension-grade thermocouple wire (not copper) for temperature inputs to the DS3800XTFP; incorrect wire types introduce cold-junction errors.

  • Thermocouple polarity – observe correct polarity when connecting thermocouples; reversed polarity produces inverted readings.

  • RTD wiring – use 3-wire or 4-wire RTD connections to cancel lead resistance; 2-wire connections introduce measurement errors.

  • CJC location – the DS3800XTFP cold-junction compensation measures the temperature at the terminal block. Ensure the terminal block is not exposed to drafts or radiant heat.

  • Frequency input voltage limits – never apply voltage above 30V to the frequency inputs; magnetic pickups can generate high voltages at high speeds – use appropriate attenuation.

  • Cable shielding – use shielded twisted-pair cables for all thermocouple, RTD, and frequency inputs. Ground the shield only at the DS3800XTFP end to prevent ground loops.

  • Ground loops – use single-point grounding for all sensors connected to the General Electric DS3800XTFP to avoid ground-loop noise.

  • Frequency update rate – when using period-averaging, ensure the update rate is set appropriately for the input frequency; low frequencies require longer averaging.

  • Hot-swap – never insert or remove the DS3800XTFP while the rack is powered; this can cause bus errors or component damage.

  • ESD handling – always use a grounded wrist strap when handling the DS3800XTFP; CMOS and precision analog components are ESD-sensitive.

  • Storage – store spare DS3800XTFP boards in anti-static bags in a dry, temperature-controlled environment.

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