GE DS3800NGRA1B1A

¥999.00

The DS3800NGRA1B1A is a specific revision of General Electric’s Mark V series Fan/Exhaust Control board, part of the Speedtronic™ turbine control system. The suffix “1B1A” indicates Revision B firmware with enhanced 16-bit ADC (improved cold-junction compensation, ±1°C accuracy), standard temperature components (0°C to +60°C), and 5A mechanical relay outputs. This board provides 8 mechanical relay outputs (5A) , 8 thermocouple input channels, and no tachometer feedback capability.

The DS3800NGRA1B1A is an upgraded version of the base DS3800NGRA, offering improved temperature accuracy (16-bit vs. 12-bit ADC) and Revision B firmware enhancements. The 5A relay rating distinguishes this board from lower-current relay variants, making it suitable for larger AC fans or multiple fan loads per channel. The board relies entirely on the Mark V CPU for control logic, with no onboard setpoint storage.

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Description

Key Technical Parameters

Parameter Specification
Manufacturer General Electric (GE)
Series Mark V (Speedtronic)
Full Model DS3800NGRA1B1A
Power Supply +5V DC @ 3.4A, +15V DC @ 0.5A, -15V DC @ 0.3A (via backplane)
Temperature Inputs 8 differential thermocouple channels (Type J/K/T, 16-bit ADC, ±1°C accuracy)
RTD Inputs None
Fan Outputs 8 mechanical relays, 5A continuous @ 115VAC or 30VDC (surge 10A for 100ms)
Tachometer Inputs None
Communication Mark V proprietary parallel backplane bus
Operating Temperature 0°C to +60°C
Storage Temperature -40°C to +85°C
LED Indicators Power (green), Fan Run (8x amber), Over-Temp Alarm (red), Backplane Active (yellow)

Advantages and Distinctive Features

  • 5A Mechanical Relay Outputs: The DS3800NGRA1B1A delivers 5A continuous output capability (10A surge), making it suitable for driving 1/2 HP AC fans or multiple DC fans in parallel.

  • Improved Temperature Accuracy (16-bit ADC): Provides ±1°C accuracy—double the precision of the base 12-bit (±2°C) model—enabling better thermal management.

  • AC/DC Output Capability: Can switch both AC and DC fan loads, offering flexibility for mixed cabinet installations.

  • Complete Galvanic Isolation: Relay outputs provide 2500V isolation between control logic and fan power circuits.

  • Full 8 Thermocouple Inputs: Comprehensive zone-by-zone temperature monitoring for large cabinets.

  • Enhanced Firmware (Revision B): Improved cold-junction compensation for more reliable temperature readings.


Typical Application Fields

  • Turbine Cabinets with Large AC Fans: Where 5A relay capacity is required for 1/2 HP blowers or multiple fans per channel.

  • Climate-Controlled Indoor Installations: 0°C to +60°C range supports standard power plant environments.

  • High-Surge Fan Applications: Mechanical relays handle startup surges better than solid-state alternatives.

  • Retrofit Upgrades: Replacing base DS3800NGRA boards with the DS3800NGRA1B1A for improved temperature accuracy.

  • Budget-Conscious Higher-Current Applications: Cost-effective solution without tachometer feedback.


Comparison with Related Models

Feature DS3800NGRA1B1A DS3800NGRA (Base) DS3800NGDC1A1A DS3800NFLA1C1C
Output Type Mechanical relay Mechanical relay Mechanical relay Mechanical relay
Output Current 5A 5A 3A 5A
Thermocouple Inputs 8 channels 8 channels 8 channels 4 channels
Tachometer Inputs None None None 2 channels
ADC Resolution 16-bit (±1°C) 12-bit (±2°C) 12-bit (±2°C) 16-bit (±1°C)
Onboard Logic No No No No
AC Fan Capability Yes Yes Yes Yes
Operating Temp 0°C to +60°C 0°C to +60°C 0°C to +60°C -20°C to +65°C
Fallback Mode Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%)
Cost (Used) Medium Medium Low Medium-High

Selection Recommendations

  • Choose the DS3800NGRA1B1A if:

    • Your fans require mechanical relay outputs with 5A continuous rating.

    • You do not require tachometer speed feedback.

    • You want improved temperature accuracy (±1°C) for better thermal management.

    • Your cabinet requires 8 temperature sensors for comprehensive monitoring.

    • You have a climate-controlled environment (0°C to +60°C).

    • The Mark V CPU handles all control logic.

    • You are upgrading from a base DS3800NGRA for better performance.

  • Choose the DS3800NFLA1C1C if: You need 5A relays with tachometer feedback and extended temperature range (-20°C to +65°C) but can accept 4 thermocouple inputs.

  • Choose the DS3800NGDC1A1A if: You need 3A relay outputs with basic 12-bit ADC.

  • Choose the base DS3800NGRA if: You do not require improved temperature accuracy.


Critical Precautions

  • ESD Protection: The DS3800NGRA1B1A contains sensitive ADC components. Always wear a grounded ESD wrist strap.

  • Relay Contact Wear: Mechanical relays are rated for 100,000 operations at 5A. For frequent cycling applications, consider derating or using solid-state alternatives.

  • Inductive Load Derating: The 5A rating applies to resistive loads. For inductive fan motors, derate to 3.5A or use an external RC snubber across each relay output.

  • No Tachometer Inputs: The DS3800NGRA1B1A has no tachometer capability. Do not connect speed sensors.

  • No Hot-Swap: Always depower the Mark V rack before inserting or removing the DS3800NGRA1B1A.

  • Slot Assignment: Install in auxiliary I/O slots (typically slots 8–10). Do not install in CPU or analog input slots.

  • CPU Dependency: Since the DS3800NGRA1B1A has no onboard logic, the Mark V CPU must send fan ON/OFF commands. If backplane communication is lost, the board defaults to 100% fan speed (fallback mode). Address communication issues promptly.

  • Firmware Compatibility: Revision B firmware on the DS3800NGRA1B1A is compatible with Mark V CPU firmware v4.0 and above. For v3.x systems, the enhanced ADC accuracy may be partially disabled. Confirm compatibility before purchasing.

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