GE DS3800NGRA

¥999.00

The DS3800NGRA is a Fan/Exhaust Control board from General Electric’s Mark V Speedtronic™ series, designed for gas and steam turbine control systems. This board features mechanical relay outputs with no tachometer feedback capability—placing it in the same basic category as the “NFEE” and “NGDC” series. The DS3800NGRA provides 8 mechanical relay outputs (5A) and 8 thermocouple input channels.

The “NGRA” designation indicates a board optimized for higher-current relay-based fan control with full temperature monitoring, but without speed feedback or advanced firmware features. The 5A relay rating distinguishes the DS3800NGRA from lower-current relay boards like the DS3800NGDC (3A), making it suitable for larger AC fans or multiple fan loads per channel. It relies entirely on the Mark V CPU for control logic, functioning as a simple I/O interface.

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Description

Key Technical Parameters

Parameter Specification
Manufacturer General Electric (GE)
Series Mark V (Speedtronic)
Full Model DS3800NGRA
Power Supply +5V DC @ 3.2A, +15V DC @ 0.5A, -15V DC @ 0.3A (via backplane)
Temperature Inputs 8 differential thermocouple channels (Type J/K/T, 12-bit ADC, ±2°C accuracy)
RTD Inputs None
Fan Outputs 8 mechanical relays, 5A continuous @ 115VAC or 30VDC (surge 10A for 100ms)
Tachometer Inputs None
Communication Mark V proprietary parallel backplane bus
Operating Temperature 0°C to +60°C
Storage Temperature -40°C to +85°C
LED Indicators Power (green), Fan Run (8x amber), Over-Temp Alarm (red), Backplane Active (yellow)

Advantages and Distinctive Features

  • 5A Mechanical Relay Outputs: The DS3800NGRA delivers 5A continuous output capability (10A surge), making it suitable for driving 1/2 HP AC fans or multiple DC fans in parallel—a significant upgrade over 3A relay boards.

  • Full 8 Thermocouple Inputs: Comprehensive zone-by-zone temperature monitoring for large cabinets.

  • AC/DC Output Capability: Can switch both AC and DC fan loads, offering flexibility for mixed cabinet installations.

  • High Surge Current Handling: Mechanical relays handle 10A surges, suitable for fan motors with high startup currents.

  • Complete Galvanic Isolation: Relay outputs provide 2500V isolation between control logic and fan power circuits.

  • Simple, CPU-Dependent Operation: No onboard setpoint storage—keeps the board cost-effective and easy to troubleshoot.


Typical Application Fields

  • Turbine Cabinets with Large AC Fans: Where 5A relay capacity is required for 1/2 HP blowers or multiple fans per channel.

  • Climate-Controlled Indoor Installations: 0°C to +60°C range supports standard power plant environments.

  • High-Surge Fan Applications: Mechanical relays handle startup surges better than solid-state alternatives.

  • Budget-Conscious Relay-Based Applications: Cost-effective solution for higher-current fan control without tachometer feedback.

  • Retrofit from 3A Relay Boards: Upgrading to the DS3800NGRA for increased current capacity.


Comparison with Related Models

Feature DS3800NGRA DS3800NGDC DS3800NFEE DS3800NFLA
Output Type Mechanical relay Mechanical relay Mechanical relay Mechanical relay
Output Current 5A 3A 3A 3A
Thermocouple Inputs 8 channels 8 channels 8 channels 8 channels
Tachometer Inputs None None None 2 channels
ADC Resolution 12-bit (±2°C) 12-bit (±2°C) 12-bit (±2°C) 12-bit (±2°C)
Onboard Logic No No No No
AC Fan Capability Yes Yes Yes Yes
Operating Temp 0°C to +60°C 0°C to +60°C 0°C to +60°C 0°C to +60°C
Fallback Mode Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%)
Cost (Used) Medium Low Low Medium

Selection Recommendations

  • Choose the DS3800NGRA if:

    • Your fans require mechanical relay outputs with 5A continuous rating (e.g., 1/2 HP AC fans).

    • You do not require tachometer speed feedback.

    • Your cabinet requires 8 temperature sensors for comprehensive monitoring.

    • You have a climate-controlled environment (0°C to +60°C).

    • The Mark V CPU handles all control logic.

    • You need higher current capacity than 3A relay boards but do not need tachometer feedback.

  • Choose the DS3800NGDC or DS3800NFEE if: You need 3A relay outputs and do not require tachometer feedback.

  • Choose the DS3800NFLA if: You need relay outputs with tachometer feedback (3A only).


Critical Precautions

  • ESD Protection: The DS3800NGRA contains sensitive ADC components. Always wear a grounded ESD wrist strap.

  • Relay Contact Wear: Mechanical relays are rated for 100,000 operations at 5A. For frequent cycling applications, consider derating or using solid-state alternatives.

  • Inductive Load Derating: The 5A rating applies to resistive loads. For inductive fan motors, derate to 3.5A or use an external RC snubber across each relay output.

  • No Tachometer Inputs: The DS3800NGRA has no tachometer capability. Do not connect speed sensors.

  • No Hot-Swap: Always depower the Mark V rack before inserting or removing the DS3800NGRA.

  • Slot Assignment: Install in auxiliary I/O slots (typically slots 8–10). Do not install in CPU or analog input slots.

  • CPU Dependency: Since the DS3800NGRA has no onboard logic, the Mark V CPU must send fan ON/OFF commands. If backplane communication is lost, the board defaults to 100% fan speed (fallback mode). Address communication issues promptly.

  • Firmware Compatibility: The DS3800NGRA is compatible with all Mark V CPU firmware versions (v3.x and above). No specific CPU upgrade is needed.

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