GE DS3800NFLA

¥999.00

The DS3800NFLA is a Fan/Exhaust Control board from General Electric’s Mark V Speedtronic™ series, designed for gas and steam turbine control systems. This board features mechanical relay outputs (like the “NFEE” series) with integrated tachometer feedback capability (like the “NFIA” series)—making it a hybrid solution that combines high-current AC/DC switching with speed monitoring. The DS3800NFLA provides 8 mechanical relay outputs (3A) , 8 thermocouple input channels, and 2 tachometer input channels for fan speed verification.

The DS3800NFLA is designed for applications requiring the robust isolation and high surge tolerance of mechanical relays, combined with the ability to monitor actual fan rotation for safety-critical cooling systems. Unlike the “NFEE” series (which lacks tachometer inputs), the DS3800NFLA allows the Mark V CPU to confirm that commanded fans are actually running—a critical feature for turbine cabinets where airflow failure could lead to catastrophic overheating.

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Description

Key Technical Parameters

Parameter Specification
Manufacturer General Electric (GE)
Series Mark V (Speedtronic)
Full Model DS3800NFLA
Power Supply +5V DC @ 3.0A, +15V DC @ 0.5A, -15V DC @ 0.3A (via backplane)
Temperature Inputs 8 differential thermocouple channels (Type J/K/T, 12-bit ADC)
RTD Inputs None
Fan Outputs 8 mechanical relays, 3A continuous @ 115VAC or 30VDC (surge 5A for 100ms)
Tachometer Inputs 2 high-speed pulse channels (up to 10 kHz) for fan speed feedback
Communication Mark V proprietary parallel backplane bus
Operating Temperature 0°C to +60°C
Storage Temperature -40°C to +85°C
LED Indicators Power (green), Fan Run (8x amber), Tach Fail (red x2), Over-Temp Alarm (red), Backplane Active (yellow)

Advantages and Distinctive Features

  • Mechanical Relays with Tachometer Feedback: The DS3800NFLA uniquely combines 3A mechanical relay outputs with 2 tachometer input channels—allowing the CPU to verify fan operation while benefiting from relay isolation and high surge tolerance.

  • AC/DC Output Capability: Unlike solid-state “NFIA” boards (DC-only), the DS3800NFLA can switch both AC and DC fan loads, providing greater flexibility for mixed cabinet installations.

  • High Surge Current Handling: Mechanical relays on the DS3800NFLA handle 5A surges, making them suitable for fan motors with high startup currents.

  • Complete Galvanic Isolation: Relay outputs provide 2500V isolation between the control logic and fan power circuits—superior to solid-state designs for noise immunity.

  • Simple, CPU-Dependent Operation: Like the base DS3800NFIB, the DS3800NFLA relies entirely on the Mark V CPU for control logic, with no onboard setpoint storage. This keeps the board simple and cost-effective.


Typical Application Fields

  • Turbine Cabinets with Mixed AC/DC Fans: Where both AC and DC fans are present and speed monitoring is required.

  • Safety-Critical Cooling Systems: Applications where fan failure must be detected immediately—the DS3800NFLA provides tachometer feedback for this purpose.

  • High-Inrush Fan Applications: Mechanical relays handle startup surges better than solid-state alternatives.

  • Retrofit from NFEE Boards: Upgrading to the DS3800NFLA adds tachometer monitoring without changing the relay output type.

  • Industrial Environments with High EMI: Mechanical relays provide superior isolation in electrically noisy environments.


Comparison with Related Models

Feature DS3800NFLA DS3800NFEE (Base) DS3800NFIA DS3800NFEC1B1B
Output Type Mechanical relay (AC/DC) Mechanical relay (AC/DC) Solid-state (DC only) Solid-state (AC/DC)
Output Current 3A 3A 2A 2A
Tachometer Inputs 2 channels None 2 channels 2 channels
Onboard Logic No (CPU-dependent) No No Yes (PID-based)
ADC Resolution 12-bit (±2°C) 12-bit (±2°C) 16-bit (±2°C) 16-bit (±1°C)
AC Fan Capability Yes Yes No Yes
Operating Temp 0°C to +60°C 0°C to +60°C 0°C to +60°C -20°C to +65°C
Fallback Mode Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%)
Cost (Used) Medium Low Medium-Low High

Selection Recommendations

  • Choose the DS3800NFLA if:

    • Your fans require mechanical relay outputs (AC or DC) with high surge handling.

    • You need tachometer feedback to verify fan operation.

    • You have a climate-controlled environment (0°C to +60°C).

    • The Mark V CPU handles all control logic (no onboard setpoints required).

    • You want a cost-effective hybrid solution without advanced firmware features.

  • Choose the DS3800NFEE if: You need relay outputs but do not require tachometer feedback.

  • Choose the DS3800NFIA if: You prefer solid-state DC outputs with tachometer feedback.

  • Choose the DS3800NFEC1B1B if: You need onboard PID control, AC/DC solid-state outputs, and extended temperature range.


Critical Precautions

  • ESD Protection: The DS3800NFLA contains sensitive ADC components. Always wear a grounded ESD wrist strap.

  • Relay Contact Wear: Mechanical relays on the DS3800NFLA are rated for 100,000 operations at 3A. For frequent cycling applications, consider derating or using solid-state alternatives.

  • Tachometer Wiring: Use shielded twisted-pair cable for tachometer signals. Connect the shield to the DS3800NFLA‘s designated shield terminal. Keep tach wiring separate from fan power cables.

  • Inductive Load Derating: The 3A rating applies to resistive loads. For inductive fan motors, derate to 2A or use an external RC snubber across each relay output.

  • No Hot-Swap: Always depower the Mark V rack before inserting or removing the DS3800NFLA.

  • Slot Assignment: Install in auxiliary I/O slots (typically slots 8–10). Do not install in CPU or analog input slots.

  • CPU Dependency: Since the DS3800NFLA has no onboard logic, the Mark V CPU must process tachometer feedback and send fan ON/OFF commands. If backplane communication is lost, the board defaults to 100% fan speed—tachometer monitoring will be disabled in fallback mode.

  • Firmware Compatibility: The DS3800NFLA has minimal firmware requirements and is compatible with all Mark V CPU firmware versions (v3.x and above). No specific CPU upgrade is needed for basic functionality.

NEC PC-9801US
Schneider MA-0186-100
SCHNEIDER 490NOR00003

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