GE DS3800NFIA1B1C

¥999.00

The DS3800NFIA1B1C is a specialized revision of General Electric’s Mark V series Fan/Exhaust Control board, part of the Speedtronic™ turbine control system. The suffix “1B1C” indicates Revision B firmware with a unique hardware configuration—featuring 8 solid-state DC outputs (3A) and 2 tachometer inputs, but with thermocouple input channels reduced to 4 (instead of the standard 8). This board is designed for applications where temperature monitoring is less critical, but higher fan control density is required.

The primary distinction of the DS3800NFIA1B1C is its I/O reallocation: by reducing thermocouple channels, the board dedicates more backplane bandwidth and onboard processing power to tachometer signal conditioning and output switching. This makes the DS3800NFIA1B1C particularly well-suited for racks where multiple fans require precise speed feedback, but fewer temperature sensors are installed.

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Description

Key Technical Parameters

Parameter Specification
Manufacturer General Electric (GE)
Series Mark V (Speedtronic)
Full Model DS3800NFIA1B1C
Power Supply +5V DC @ 3.2A, +15V DC @ 0.5A, -15V DC @ 0.3A (via backplane)
Temperature Inputs 4 differential thermocouple channels (Type J/K/T, 16-bit ADC)
RTD Inputs None
Fan Outputs 8 solid-state relays, 3A continuous @ 24–48VDC (surge 5A for 100ms)
Tachometer Inputs 2 channels with enhanced signal conditioning (up to 15 kHz)
Communication Mark V proprietary parallel backplane bus
Operating Temperature -20°C to +65°C
Storage Temperature -40°C to +85°C
LED Indicators Power (green), Fan Run (8x green), Tach Fail (red x2), Over-Temp Alarm (red), Fallback Active (yellow)

Advantages and Distinctive Features

  • Reduced Thermocouple Count (4 channels): The DS3800NFIA1B1C reallocates hardware resources from temperature inputs to enhanced tachometer signal conditioning. This provides more stable speed readings in noisy environments—ideal for cabinets with VFDs or large motor starters.

  • Enhanced Tachometer Processing: With fewer thermocouple channels to manage, the DS3800NFIA1B1C dedicates additional processing power to tachometer debounce and filtering, reducing false speed failure alarms.

  • 3A Solid-State Outputs: Like the DS3800NFIA1B1B, this board delivers 3A continuous DC output, suitable for larger 48VDC fans or parallel fan configurations.

  • Onboard Temperature Threshold Logic (Revision B): The DS3800NFIA1B1C stores high/low temperature setpoints in EEPROM, enabling autonomous ON/OFF fan control during backplane communication loss.

  • Optimized for Fan-Dense Cabinets: With 8 outputs and only 4 temperature inputs, the DS3800NFIA1B1C is ideal for racks where multiple fans are grouped under a single temperature zone.


Typical Application Fields

  • Large Turbine Control Cabinets: Where multiple fans cool a single large zone, reducing the need for multiple temperature sensors.

  • Retrofit of Fan-Intensive Systems: Replacing older boards with the DS3800NFIA1B1C where temperature monitoring requirements have decreased.

  • VFD-Heavy Installations: The enhanced tachometer filtering on the DS3800NFIA1B1C ensures reliable speed feedback in high-EMI environments.

  • Remote Compressor Stations: The autonomous fallback logic and moderate temperature range support unstaffed operations.


Comparison with Related Models

Feature DS3800NFIA1B1C DS3800NFIA1B1B DS3800NFIA (Base) DS3800NFEC1B1B
Thermocouple Inputs 4 channels 8 channels 8 channels 8 channels
Output Current 3A 3A 2A 2A (AC/DC)
Tachometer Inputs 2 channels (enhanced) 2 channels 2 channels 2 channels
Onboard Temp Logic Yes (threshold-based) Yes No Yes (PID-based)
ADC Resolution 16-bit (±1°C) 16-bit (±1°C) 16-bit (±2°C) 16-bit (±1°C)
AC Fan Capability No No No Yes
Operating Temp -20°C to +65°C -20°C to +65°C 0°C to +60°C -20°C to +65°C
Fallback Mode Autonomous ON/OFF Autonomous ON/OFF Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%)
Cost (Used) Medium Medium Medium-Low High

Selection Recommendations

  • Choose the DS3800NFIA1B1C if:

    • Your cabinet uses fewer temperature sensors (≤4) but requires 8 DC fan outputs.

    • You need reliable tachometer feedback in high-EMI environments.

    • Enhanced tachometer filtering is more important than additional temperature inputs.

    • Your fans are DC-powered (24V or 48V) with current draw ≤3A.

    • You want autonomous temperature-based fallback during communication loss.

  • Choose the DS3800NFIA1B1B if: You need 8 thermocouple inputs with the same 3A output capability.

  • Choose the DS3800NFEC1B1B if: You need AC/DC outputs, onboard PID control, and 8 temperature inputs.

  • Choose the base DS3800NFIA if: Your fan current is ≤2A, you need 8 temperature inputs, and no autonomous fallback is required.


Critical Precautions

  • ESD Protection: The DS3800NFIA1B1C contains sensitive MOSFET and ADC components. Always wear a grounded ESD wrist strap.

  • DC Polarity and Voltage: Solid-state outputs are DC-only and polarity-sensitive. Connect positive to “+” and negative to “-“. Reverse polarity will destroy the output MOSFET. Do not exceed 48VDC.

  • Current Derating: At 65°C, derate to 2.2A per output. For multiple channels active, reduce total load by 10% per channel to avoid thermal shutdown.

  • Missing Thermocouple Channels: The DS3800NFIA1B1C has only 4 thermocouple inputs (channels 1–4). Channels 5–8 are physically absent and will not function—do not attempt to connect sensors to these terminals.

  • Tachometer Wiring: Use shielded twisted-pair cable. The enhanced conditioning on the DS3800NFIA1B1C reduces noise sensitivity, but proper grounding is still essential.

  • No Hot-Swap: Always depower the Mark V rack before inserting or removing the DS3800NFIA1B1C.

  • Slot Assignment: Install in auxiliary I/O slots (typically slots 8–10). Do not install in CPU or analog input slots.

  • Fallback Threshold Configuration: Configure autonomous ON/OFF thresholds via Mark V software. If not configured, the DS3800NFIA1B1C defaults to 100% fan speed during communication loss.

  • Firmware Compatibility: Revision B firmware is compatible with Mark V CPU firmware v4.0 and above. For v3.x systems, confirm compatibility before purchasing.

ABB 4944026-004
ABB SK829007-B
SIEMENS 6SY7000-0AC38

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