DS3800HMPJ1A1A GE

¥999.00

The General Electric DS3800HMPJ1A1A is a dedicated thermocouple input module for GE Mark IV/V Speedtronic turbine control systems. It belongs to the HMPJ series—the most advanced thermocouple-dedicated family in the Speedtronic lineup. The “1A1A” suffix indicates an early hardware revision and factory calibration profile within the HMPJ series. This module is optimized exclusively for thermocouple signal conditioning and is primarily deployed for exhaust gas temperature (EGT) monitoring in GE Frame gas turbines, as well as high-temperature steam measurement in combined-cycle and industrial cogeneration plants. The General Electric DS3800HMPJ1A1A represents the entry-level revision of the HMPJ series, offering a balance of next-generation performance with early-production specifications.

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Description

Technical Parameters

Parameter Specification
Analog Inputs 8 differential, thermocouple-dedicated
Input Types TC (J,K,T,E,R,S,B,N) – full ITS-90
Analog Outputs None (input-only)
ADC Resolution 20-bit sigma-delta (effective: 17.5 bits)
Sampling Rate 10-500 Hz per channel (user-selectable)
Accuracy ±0.05% FS (25°C); ±0.12% (-40°C to +85°C)
CJC Accuracy ±0.25°C (integrated, four sensors)
Isolation 2000V RMS (field-to-backplane)
CMRR >105 dB at 50/60 Hz
Operating Temp -40°C to +85°C
Power Supply +5V @ 1.2A; +15V @ 0.5A (VME backplane)
Power Dissipation 9.5W max
Diagnostics Open/short detection, out-of-range, rate-of-change, CJC health, internal temp, supply telemetry
Form Factor 6U VME (single-slot)
Firmware Field-upgradeable via JTAG
Conformal Coating Standard
MTBF >280,000 hours

Advantages and Key Features

  • Thermocouple-Dedicated Design – Optimized exclusively for TC signals; no unnecessary circuitry, improving reliability and CJC accuracy.

  • 20-Bit ADC – Industry-leading resolution for thermocouple measurement.

  • Excellent CJC Accuracy – ±0.25°C, significantly better than HMPG series.

  • High Isolation – 2000V, matching the best HMPG revisions.

  • Fast Sampling – Up to 500 Hz, equal to flagship HMPG.

  • N-Type Support – Full ITS-90 linearization including N-type thermocouples.

  • Field-Upgradeable Firmware – JTAG port for updates.

  • Conformal Coating Standard – Built-in protection for harsh environments.

  • Hot-Swap Capable – IEEE 1101.11 compliant.

  • Advanced Diagnostics – Comprehensive per-channel health monitoring.


Application Fields

Industry Applications
Power Generation (Gas Turbines) GE Frame 6B/7E/7FA/9E – EGT monitoring, combustion temperature mapping
Power Generation (Steam Turbines) GE D-11/D-15 – high-pressure steam temperature, bearing monitoring
Combined Cycle HRSG superheater/reheater outlet temperature
Oil & Gas LM2500/LM6000 – turbine exhaust temperature, compressor discharge
Marine Naval gas turbines – propulsion exhaust temperature monitoring

Comparison with Other GE Revisions

Feature DS3800HMPJ1A1A DS3800HMPJ DS3800HMPG1G1D DS3800HMAC1H1F
ADC Resolution 20-bit (17.5 eff.) 20-bit (18 eff.) 18-bit (16.5 eff.) 18-bit (16.8 eff.)
Accuracy ±0.05% ±0.03% ±0.05% ±0.04%
CJC Accuracy ±0.25°C ±0.2°C ±0.3°C ±0.4°C
Max Sampling 500 Hz 1000 Hz 500 Hz 1000 Hz
Isolation 2000V 2500V 2000V 2500V
Firmware Upgrade Yes (JTAG) Yes (JTAG+USB) Yes (JTAG) Yes
Conformal Coating Standard Standard Optional Standard
Diagnostics Advanced Predictive health Advanced Advanced+
MTBF 280k hrs 300k hrs 245k hrs 280k hrs

Competitor Comparison:

Feature DS3800HMPJ1A1A Siemens 6ES7531-7KF00 ABB AI810
Platform GE VME Speedtronic S7-1500 (Profinet) ABB 800xA
VME Native Yes No No
CJC Accuracy ±0.25°C ±0.5°C (external) ±1.0°C
Isolation 2000V 500V (group) 2500V
Hot-Swap Yes No Yes

Selection Recommendations

Scenario Recommendation
Existing installation with 1A1A Continue use if acceptable; spares may be limited.
Need improved accuracy/speed/isolation Upgrade to full DS3800HMPJ (±0.03%, 1000Hz, 2500V, USB firmware).
Need outputs Use DS3800HMAC1G1E or DS3800HMAC1H1F.
Need highest accuracy/speed Upgrade to full DS3800HMPJ (20-bit, 1000Hz, 2500V).
Need N-type support 1A1A supports N-type – acceptable.
Triple-redundant Use three identical 1A1A modules. Do not mix with other revisions.
Non-GE retrofit Do not use – strictly for VME Speedtronic.
Spare stock Limited – source refurbished units from certified centers.

Critical Precautions

Pre-Installation

  • Authenticate module – Check GE hologram labels; verify serial number traceability.

  • Inspect connectors – Check P1/P2 for bent pins or corrosion.

  • Verify firmware – Read via JTAG; confirm Mark V compatibility (V5.05+ recommended).

  • Verify conformal coating – Standard on HMPJ; check for uniform coverage.

Installation

  • ESD protection – Wear grounded wrist strap; handle by edges only.

  • Backplane voltage – Verify +5V (±2%), +15V (±1.5%), -15V (±1.5%).

  • Insertion – Align guides; apply even pressure; tighten screws to 0.4-0.6 Nm. Never force.

Field Wiring (Critical for TC)

  • Cable – Must use thermocouple-grade extension wire matching TC type. Copper wire introduces errors.

  • Shielding – Belden 8760 or equivalent; ground shield only at module end.

  • Separation – 30cm from AC power; 60cm from VFD cables; cross at 90° if unavoidable.

  • Torque – 0.5-0.6 Nm.

Environmental

  • CJC stability – Avoid heat sources or air vents near terminal block.

  • Operating temp – -40°C to +85°C; keep rack <70°C.

  • Warm-up – Allow 30 minutes for CJC stabilization.

  • Humidity – 5-95% RH non-condensing.

Procurement

  • Authentic sourcing – Buy from GE-authorized distributors or certified repair centers.

  • Refurbished units – Request CJC calibration certificate and 1-year warranty.

Siemens 6ES5376-1AA21
NI PCI-6503
SIEMENS 6FC5247-0AA11-0AA1

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