DS3800HMHA1E1F GE

¥999.00

The General Electric DS3800HMHA1E1F is a high-density analog input module for GE Mark IV/V Speedtronic turbine control systems. It is an input-only module offering 16 channels—double the density of the HMAC series. The “1E1F” suffix indicates a specific hardware revision, factory firmware configuration, and calibration profile. This module is primarily used for exhaust gas temperature (EGT) monitoring in GE Frame turbines, where 16 thermocouple inputs per module provide efficient space utilization. The General Electric DS3800HMHA1E1F is an earlier-generation model in the HMHA series, preceding later revisions with enhanced specifications.

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Description

Technical Parameters

Parameter Specification
Analog Inputs 16 differential, software-configurable
Input Types TC (J,K,T,E,R,S,B), RTD (Pt100), 4-20mA, 0-10V, ±100mV
Analog Outputs None (input-only)
ADC Resolution 16-bit (effective: 14.5 bits)
Sampling Rate 10-50 Hz per channel (fixed)
Accuracy ±0.15% FS (25°C); ±0.35% (-40°C to +85°C)
Isolation 1000V RMS (field-to-backplane)
CMRR >75 dB at 50/60 Hz
Operating Temp -40°C to +85°C
Power Supply +5V @ 1.2A; +15V @ 0.4A (VME backplane)
Power Dissipation 9W max
Diagnostics Basic open/short detection, out-of-range alarms, watchdog timer
Form Factor 6U VME (single-slot)
Firmware Factory-programmed (not field-upgradeable)
MTBF >190,000 hours

Advantages and Key Features

  • 16 Input Channels – Double density of HMAC series; ideal for EGT arrays.

  • Universal Inputs – Software-configurable for TC, RTD, or analog signals.

  • Integrated CJC – Onboard cold-junction compensation.

  • Basic Diagnostics – Open/short and out-of-range detection.

  • Watchdog Timer – Failsafe reporting on communication loss.

  • Hot-Swap Capable – IEEE 1101.11 compliant.


Application Fields

Industry Applications
Power Generation GE Frame 6B/7E/9E gas turbines – EGT monitoring (16 thermocouples per module)
Steam Turbines GE D-11/D-15 – bearing RTDs, casing expansion
Combined Cycle HRSG temperature monitoring – superheater/reheater
Oil & Gas LM2500/LM6000 – compressor inlet and exhaust temperature

Comparison with Newer GE Revisions

Feature DS3800HMHA1E1F DS3800HMHA DS3800HMAC1G1E DS3800HMAC1H1F
Input Channels 16 16 8 8
Output Channels None None 4 4
ADC Resolution 16-bit (14.5 eff.) 16-bit (15 eff.) 18-bit (16.5 eff.) 18-bit (16.8 eff.)
Accuracy ±0.15% ±0.10% ±0.05% ±0.04%
Max Sampling 50 Hz 100 Hz 500 Hz 1000 Hz
Isolation 1000V 1500V 2000V 2500V
Firmware Upgrade No Yes (late rev) Yes Yes
Conformal Coating No Optional Optional Standard
Diagnostics Basic Enhanced Advanced Advanced+
MTBF 190k hrs 220k hrs 250k hrs 280k hrs

Competitor Comparison:

Feature DS3800HMHA1E1F Siemens 6ES7531-7KF00 (16-ch) ABB AI830 (16-ch)
Platform GE VME Speedtronic S7-1500 (Profinet) ABB 800xA
VME Native Yes No No
Isolation 1000V 500V (group) 2500V (channel)
Accuracy ±0.15% ±0.1% ±0.08%

Selection Recommendations

Scenario Recommendation
Existing installation with 1E1F Continue use if acceptable; spares are limited.
Need improved accuracy/speed Upgrade to later HMHA revision or HMAC G/H series.
Need 16 inputs with better isolation Upgrade to DS3800HMHA late revision (1500V, 100Hz).
Need both inputs and outputs Use HMAC series ( DS3800HMAC1G1E or DS3800HMAC1H1F ).
Triple-redundant Use three identical 1E1F modules. Do not mix revisions.
Non-GE retrofit Do not use – strictly for VME Speedtronic.
Spare stock Very limited availability – source refurbished units only.
Harsh environment Not recommended – lacks conformal coating; upgrade to H revision.

Critical Precautions

Pre-Installation

  • Authenticate module – Check GE labels; verify serial number.

  • Inspect connectors – Check for bent pins or corrosion.

  • Firmware note – Factory-programmed; cannot be updated.

Installation

  • ESD protection – Wear grounded wrist strap.

  • Backplane voltage – Verify +5V (±2%), +15V (±1.5%), -15V (±1.5%).

  • Insertion – Align guides; apply even pressure; never force.

Field Wiring

  • Cable – Belden 8760 for TC/RTD; Belden 8424 for 4-20mA.

  • Shielding – Ground shield only at module end.

  • Separation – 30cm from AC power; 60cm from VFD cables.

  • Torque – 0.5-0.6 Nm.

Environmental

  • Operating temp – -40°C to +85°C; keep rack <70°C.

  • Humidity – 5-95% RH non-condensing; allow 4-hour warm-up if stored <0°C.

  • Vibration – 5g (10-500Hz).

Procurement

  • Authentic sourcing – Obsolete; source from certified GE repair centers only.

  • Refurbished units – Request calibration certificate and minimum 1-year warranty.


Final Summary

The General Electric DS3800HMHA1E1F is an early, obsolete high-density analog input module for GE Speedtronic systems, offering 16 channels in a single slot. Its ±0.15% accuracy, 1000V isolation, and 50Hz sampling are significantly outdated compared to later HMHA revisions and HMAC G/H series. Only consider this module if maintaining an existing installation with identical spares. For upgrades, new builds, or performance-critical applications, choose the DS3800HMHA (late revision) for 16-channel input, or DS3800HMAC1G1E / DS3800HMAC1H1F if outputs are also required. Source refurbished units exclusively from certified GE repair centers.

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