GE DS3800NGMA

¥999.00

The DS3800NGMA is a Fan/Exhaust Control board from General Electric’s Mark V Speedtronic™ series, designed for gas and steam turbine control systems. This board features mechanical relay outputs with integrated tachometer feedback capability—placing it in the same hybrid category as the “NFLA” series. The DS3800NGMA provides 8 mechanical relay outputs (3A) , 8 thermocouple input channels, and 2 tachometer input channels for fan speed verification.

The “NGMA” designation indicates a board optimized for relay-based fan control with speed monitoring in climate-controlled environments. Like the DS3800NFLA, the DS3800NGMA combines the robust isolation and high surge tolerance of mechanical relays with the ability to monitor actual fan rotation. It relies entirely on the Mark V CPU for control logic, with no onboard setpoint storage.

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Description

Key Technical Parameters

Parameter Specification
Manufacturer General Electric (GE)
Series Mark V (Speedtronic)
Full Model DS3800NGMA
Power Supply +5V DC @ 3.0A, +15V DC @ 0.5A, -15V DC @ 0.3A (via backplane)
Temperature Inputs 8 differential thermocouple channels (Type J/K/T, 12-bit ADC, ±2°C accuracy)
RTD Inputs None
Fan Outputs 8 mechanical relays, 3A continuous @ 115VAC or 30VDC (surge 5A for 100ms)
Tachometer Inputs 2 high-speed pulse channels (up to 10 kHz) for fan speed feedback
Communication Mark V proprietary parallel backplane bus
Operating Temperature 0°C to +60°C
Storage Temperature -40°C to +85°C
LED Indicators Power (green), Fan Run (8x amber), Tach Fail (red x2), Over-Temp Alarm (red), Backplane Active (yellow)

Advantages and Distinctive Features

  • Mechanical Relays with Tachometer Feedback: The DS3800NGMA uniquely combines 3A mechanical relay outputs with 2 tachometer input channels—allowing the CPU to verify fan operation while benefiting from relay isolation and high surge tolerance.

  • AC/DC Output Capability: Can switch both AC and DC fan loads, providing flexibility for mixed cabinet installations.

  • High Surge Current Handling: Mechanical relays handle 5A surges, making them suitable for fan motors with high startup currents.

  • Complete Galvanic Isolation: Relay outputs provide 2500V isolation between control logic and fan power circuits.

  • Full 8 Thermocouple Inputs: Comprehensive zone-by-zone temperature monitoring.

  • Simple, CPU-Dependent Operation: No onboard setpoint storage—keeps the board cost-effective and easy to troubleshoot.


Typical Application Fields

  • Turbine Cabinets with Mixed AC/DC Fans: Where both AC and DC fans are present and speed monitoring is required.

  • Safety-Critical Cooling Systems: Applications where fan failure must be detected immediately.

  • High-Inrush Fan Applications: Mechanical relays handle startup surges better than solid-state alternatives.

  • Climate-Controlled Indoor Installations: 0°C to +60°C range supports standard power plant environments.

  • Retrofit from NFEE Boards: Upgrading to the DS3800NGMA adds tachometer monitoring without changing the relay output type.


Comparison with Related Models

Feature DS3800NGMA DS3800NFLA DS3800NFEE DS3800NFIA
Output Type Mechanical relay Mechanical relay Mechanical relay Solid-state (DC only)
Output Current 3A 3A 3A 2A
Thermocouple Inputs 8 channels 8 channels 8 channels 8 channels
Tachometer Inputs 2 channels 2 channels None 2 channels
ADC Resolution 12-bit (±2°C) 12-bit (±2°C) 12-bit (±2°C) 16-bit (±2°C)
Onboard Logic No No No No
AC Fan Capability Yes Yes Yes No
Operating Temp 0°C to +60°C 0°C to +60°C 0°C to +60°C 0°C to +60°C
Fallback Mode Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%)
Cost (Used) Medium Medium Low Medium-Low

Selection Recommendations

  • Choose the DS3800NGMA if:

    • Your fans require mechanical relay outputs (AC or DC) with high surge handling.

    • You need tachometer feedback to verify fan operation.

    • Your cabinet requires 8 temperature sensors for comprehensive monitoring.

    • You have a climate-controlled environment (0°C to +60°C).

    • The Mark V CPU handles all control logic.

    • You want a cost-effective hybrid solution without advanced firmware features.

  • Choose the DS3800NFLA if: You need similar functionality but prefer the “NFLA” component revision (verify compatibility for your system).

  • Choose the DS3800NFEE if: You need relay outputs but do not require tachometer feedback.

  • Choose the DS3800NFIA if: You prefer solid-state DC outputs with tachometer feedback.


Critical Precautions

  • ESD Protection: The DS3800NGMA contains sensitive ADC components. Always wear a grounded ESD wrist strap.

  • Relay Contact Wear: Mechanical relays are rated for 100,000 operations at 3A. For frequent cycling applications, consider derating or using solid-state alternatives.

  • Inductive Load Derating: The 3A rating applies to resistive loads. For inductive fan motors, derate to 2A or use an external RC snubber across each relay output.

  • Tachometer Wiring: Use shielded twisted-pair cable for tachometer signals. Connect the shield to the DS3800NGMA‘s designated shield terminal. Keep tach wiring separate from fan power cables.

  • No Hot-Swap: Always depower the Mark V rack before inserting or removing the DS3800NGMA.

  • Slot Assignment: Install in auxiliary I/O slots (typically slots 8–10). Do not install in CPU or analog input slots.

  • CPU Dependency: Since the DS3800NGMA has no onboard logic, the Mark V CPU must process tachometer feedback and send fan ON/OFF commands. If backplane communication is lost, the board defaults to 100% fan speed—tachometer monitoring will be disabled in fallback mode.

  • Firmware Compatibility: The DS3800NGMA is compatible with all Mark V CPU firmware versions (v3.x and above). No specific CPU upgrade is needed for basic functionality.

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