GE DS3800NFLA1C1C

¥999.00

The DS3800NFLA1C1C is an advanced revision of General Electric’s Mark V series Fan/Exhaust Control board, part of the Speedtronic™ turbine control system. The suffix “1C1C” indicates Revision C firmwareenhanced 16-bit ADC with improved cold-junction compensationextended temperature component selection (-20°C to +65°C), and—critically—thermocouple input channels reduced to 4 (instead of the standard 8). This board features 8 mechanical relay outputs (5A) and 2 tachometer input channels, combining high-current AC/DC switching with speed monitoring capability.

The DS3800NFLA1C1C represents a significant upgrade over the base DS3800NFLA, offering higher relay current (5A vs. 3A), improved temperature accuracy (±1°C vs. ±2°C), and extended environmental tolerance. The reduced thermocouple count (4 channels) reallocates hardware resources to enhanced tachometer signal conditioning, making the DS3800NFLA1C1C ideal for cabinets where fewer temperature sensors serve multiple fans, but reliable speed feedback is essential.

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Key Technical Parameters

Parameter Specification
Manufacturer General Electric (GE)
Series Mark V (Speedtronic)
Full Model DS3800NFLA1C1C
Power Supply +5V DC @ 3.5A, +15V DC @ 0.6A, -15V DC @ 0.4A (via backplane)
Temperature Inputs 4 differential thermocouple channels (Type J/K/T, 16-bit ADC, ±1°C accuracy)
RTD Inputs None
Fan Outputs 8 mechanical relays, 5A continuous @ 115VAC or 30VDC (surge 10A for 100ms)
Tachometer Inputs 2 channels with enhanced signal conditioning (up to 15 kHz)
Communication Mark V proprietary parallel backplane bus
Operating Temperature -20°C to +65°C (extended range)
Storage Temperature -40°C to +85°C
LED Indicators Power (green), Fan Run (8x amber), Tach Fail (red x2), Over-Temp Alarm (red), Backplane Active (yellow)

Advantages and Distinctive Features

  • 5A Mechanical Relays: The DS3800NFLA1C1C delivers 5A continuous output capability (10A surge), making it suitable for driving 1/2 HP AC fans or multiple DC fans in parallel—a significant upgrade over the 3A base model.

  • Reduced Thermocouple Count (4 channels): With only 4 temperature inputs, the DS3800NFLA1C1C dedicates additional processing power to tachometer signal conditioning, providing more stable speed readings in high-EMI environments.

  • Enhanced Tachometer Processing: The Revision C firmware includes advanced debounce filtering, reducing false speed failure alarms caused by electrical noise or fan vibration.

  • Improved Temperature Accuracy: The 16-bit ADC with enhanced cold-junction compensation provides ±1°C accuracy—double the precision of the base model’s 12-bit (±2°C) ADC.

  • AC/DC Output Capability: Mechanical relays on the DS3800NFLA1C1C can switch both AC and DC fan loads, offering flexibility for mixed cabinet installations.

  • Complete Galvanic Isolation: Relay outputs provide 2500V isolation between control logic and fan power circuits.


Typical Application Fields

  • Turbine Cabinets with Few Temperature Sensors: Where 4 sensors monitor multiple fan zones, and speed feedback is critical.

  • Safety-Critical Cooling Systems: Applications requiring immediate fan failure detection via tachometer feedback.

  • High-Inrush Fan Applications: 5A relays with 10A surge handling support large AC fans or motorized blowers.

  • High-EMI Environments: Mechanical relays provide superior isolation and noise immunity compared to solid-state alternatives.

  • Retrofit Upgrades: Replacing older DS3800NFLA boards with the DS3800NFLA1C1C for higher current, better accuracy, and extended temperature range.


Comparison with Related Models

Feature DS3800NFLA1C1C DS3800NFLA (Base) DS3800NFEE1C1B DS3800NFIA1B1C
Output Type Mechanical relay (AC/DC) Mechanical relay (AC/DC) Mechanical relay (AC/DC) Solid-state (DC only)
Output Current 5A 3A 5A 3A
Thermocouple Inputs 4 channels 8 channels 8 channels 4 channels
Tachometer Inputs 2 channels (enhanced) 2 channels None 2 channels
ADC Resolution 16-bit (±1°C) 12-bit (±2°C) 16-bit (±1°C) 16-bit (±1°C)
Onboard Logic No (CPU-dependent) No No Yes (threshold)
Operating Temp -20°C to +65°C 0°C to +60°C -20°C to +65°C -20°C to +65°C
Fallback Mode Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%) Full speed (100%) Autonomous ON/OFF
Cost (Used) Medium-High Medium Medium Medium

Selection Recommendations

  • Choose the DS3800NFLA1C1C if:

    • Your fans require mechanical relay outputs (AC or DC) with high surge handling (up to 10A).

    • Your cabinet uses ≤4 temperature sensors but requires 8 fan outputs.

    • You need enhanced tachometer feedback reliability in high-EMI environments.

    • You want improved temperature accuracy (±1°C) for better thermal management.

    • Your installation environment ranges from -20°C to +65°C.

  • Choose the DS3800NFLA (base) if: You need 8 thermocouple inputs, 3A relays, and have a climate-controlled environment.

  • Choose the DS3800NFEE1C1B if: You need 5A relays but do not require tachometer feedback.

  • Choose the DS3800NFIA1B1C if: You prefer solid-state DC outputs with tachometer feedback and autonomous fallback logic.


Critical Precautions

  • ESD Protection: The DS3800NFLA1C1C contains sensitive ADC components. Always wear a grounded ESD wrist strap.

  • Missing Thermocouple Channels: The DS3800NFLA1C1C has only 4 thermocouple inputs (channels 1–4). Channels 5–8 are physically absent and will not function—do not attempt to connect sensors.

  • Relay Contact Wear: Mechanical relays are rated for 100,000 operations at 5A. For frequent cycling, consider derating or using solid-state alternatives.

  • Inductive Load Derating: The 5A rating applies to resistive loads. For inductive fan motors, derate to 3.5A or use an external RC snubber across each relay output to suppress arcing.

  • Tachometer Wiring: Use shielded twisted-pair cable for tachometer signals. The enhanced conditioning on the DS3800NFLA1C1C reduces noise sensitivity, but proper grounding is still essential. Connect shield to the designated terminal—not at the fan end.

  • No Hot-Swap: Always depower the Mark V rack before inserting or removing the DS3800NFLA1C1C.

  • Slot Assignment: Install in auxiliary I/O slots (typically slots 8–10). Do not install in CPU or analog input slots.

  • CPU Dependency: Since the DS3800NFLA1C1C has no onboard logic, the Mark V CPU must process tachometer feedback and send fan commands. If backplane communication is lost, the board defaults to 100% fan speed—tachometer monitoring will be disabled in fallback mode.

  • Firmware Compatibility: Revision C firmware is compatible with Mark V CPU firmware v4.0 and above. For v3.x systems, the enhanced tachometer filtering may be partially disabled—confirm compatibility before purchasing.

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