GE DS3800HMPG1D1D

¥999.00

The General Electric DS3800HMPG1D1D is a dedicated thermocouple input module for GE Mark IV/V Speedtronic turbine control systems. It belongs to the HMPG series—the successor to the HMPF family—and the “1D1D” suffix indicates a mid-life hardware revision and factory calibration profile. This module is optimized exclusively for thermocouple signal conditioning and is primarily deployed for exhaust gas temperature (EGT) monitoring in GE Frame gas turbines, as well as high-temperature steam measurement in combined-cycle and industrial cogeneration plants. The General Electric DS3800HMPG1D1D represents an intermediate revision within the HMPG series, offering improved performance over the earlier 1C1C variant.

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Description

Technical Parameters

Parameter Specification
Analog Inputs 8 differential, thermocouple-dedicated
Input Types TC (J,K,T,E,R,S,B,N) – N-type supported
Analog Outputs None (input-only)
ADC Resolution 18-bit sigma-delta (effective: 16.2 bits)
Sampling Rate 10-300 Hz per channel (user-selectable)
Accuracy ±0.06% FS (25°C); ±0.15% (-40°C to +85°C)
CJC Accuracy ±0.35°C (integrated)
Isolation 1500V RMS (field-to-backplane)
CMRR >98 dB at 50/60 Hz
Operating Temp -40°C to +85°C
Power Supply +5V @ 1.15A; +15V @ 0.45A (VME backplane)
Power Dissipation 8.7W max
Diagnostics Open/short detection, out-of-range, rate-of-change, CJC health, basic telemetry
Form Factor 6U VME (single-slot)
Firmware Factory-programmed (not field-upgradeable on this revision)
Conformal Coating No
MTBF >230,000 hours

Advantages and Key Features

  • Thermocouple-Dedicated – Optimized exclusively for TC signals; no unnecessary circuitry.

  • 18-Bit ADC – Superior resolution over 16-bit HMPF series.

  • Improved Effective Resolution – 16.2 bits (better than 1C1C’s 16.0 bits).

  • Faster Sampling – Up to 300 Hz, improved over 1C1C (200 Hz).

  • Improved CJC – ±0.35°C, better than 1C1C (±0.4°C).

  • N-Type Support – Added support for N-type thermocouples (not available in HMPF).

  • Enhanced Diagnostics – Rate-of-change detection and basic telemetry.

  • Hot-Swap Capable – IEEE 1101.11 compliant.

  • ITS-90 Linearization – Full standard tables including N-type.


Application Fields

Industry Applications
Power Generation GE Frame 6B/7E/7FA/9E gas turbines – EGT monitoring, combustion mapping
Steam Turbines GE D-11/D-15 – high-pressure steam temperature, bearing monitoring
Combined Cycle HRSG superheater/reheater outlet temperature
Oil & Gas LM2500/LM6000 – turbine exhaust temperature, compressor discharge

Comparison with Other GE Revisions

Feature DS3800HMPG1D1D DS3800HMPG1C1C DS3800HMPG DS3800HMAC1H1F
ADC Resolution 18-bit (16.2 eff.) 18-bit (16.0 eff.) 18-bit (16.5 eff.) 18-bit (16.8 eff.)
Accuracy ±0.06% ±0.08% ±0.05% ±0.04%
CJC Accuracy ±0.35°C ±0.4°C ±0.3°C ±0.4°C
Max Sampling 300 Hz 200 Hz 500 Hz 1000 Hz
Isolation 1500V 1500V 2000V 2500V
Firmware Upgrade No No Yes (JTAG) Yes
Conformal Coating No No Optional Standard
N-Type Support Yes Yes Yes Yes
MTBF 230k hrs 225k hrs 240k hrs 280k hrs

Competitor Comparison:

Feature DS3800HMPG1D1D Siemens 6ES7531-7KF00 ABB AI810
Platform GE VME Speedtronic S7-1500 (Profinet) ABB 800xA
VME Native Yes No No
CJC Accuracy ±0.35°C ±0.5°C (external) ±1.0°C
Isolation 1500V 500V (group) 2500V
Hot-Swap Yes No Yes

Selection Recommendations

Scenario Recommendation
Existing installation with 1D1D Continue use if acceptable; spares limited.
Need improved accuracy/speed/isolation Upgrade to full DS3800HMPG (±0.05%, 500Hz, 2000V, field-upgradeable).
Need outputs Use DS3800HMAC1G1E or DS3800HMAC1H1F.
Need highest accuracy/speed Upgrade to DS3800HMAC1H1F (18-bit, 1000Hz, 2500V).
Need N-type support 1D1D supports N-type – acceptable.
Triple-redundant Use three identical 1D1D modules. Do not mix with other revisions.
Non-GE retrofit Do not use – strictly for VME Speedtronic.
Spare stock Limited – source refurbished units from certified centers.

Critical Precautions

Pre-Installation

  • Authenticate module – Check GE hologram labels; verify serial number.

  • Inspect connectors – Check P1/P2 for bent pins or corrosion.

  • Firmware note – Factory-programmed; cannot be field-updated.

  • Verify calibration – 1D1D has specific calibration profile; confirm with GE documentation.

Installation

  • ESD protection – Wear grounded wrist strap; handle by edges only.

  • Backplane voltage – Verify +5V (±2%), +15V (±1.5%), -15V (±1.5%).

  • Insertion – Align guides; apply even pressure; tighten screws to 0.4-0.6 Nm. Never force.

Field Wiring (Critical for TC)

  • Cable – Must use thermocouple-grade extension wire matching TC type. Copper wire introduces errors.

  • Shielding – Belden 8760 or equivalent; ground shield only at module end.

  • Separation – 30cm from AC power; 60cm from VFD cables; cross at 90° if unavoidable.

  • Torque – 0.5-0.6 Nm.

Environmental

  • CJC stability – Avoid heat sources or air vents near terminal block.

  • Operating temp – -40°C to +85°C; keep rack <70°C.

  • Warm-up – Allow 30 minutes for CJC stabilization.

  • Humidity – 5-95% RH non-condensing.

Procurement

  • Authentic sourcing – Obsolete; source from certified GE repair centers only.

  • Refurbished units – Request CJC calibration certificate and 1-year warranty.

A-B 1769-OB16
A-B 1769-IQ32
SIEMENS 6ES7322-1BH01-0AA0

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